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| The difference between a SSJ1 and SSJ2? | |
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| Rogafufuken | Mar 7 2014, 10:33 PM Post #31 |
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This is more of a question about the series, than an argument against your side, but why wouldn't Gohan go SSJ2 when it was his most powerful form at the time? |
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| blacksymbiote | Mar 7 2014, 11:06 PM Post #32 |
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Seems like the sparks for SSJ2 are getting the shaft. Goku in BOG didn't have them for most of his time as a SSJ2. |
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| SSJSC | Mar 7 2014, 11:09 PM Post #33 |
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Anime has so much fillers huh guys.. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Mar 8 2014, 12:10 AM Post #34 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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That's true, but you can see the difference between the two when Goku shows the different forms to Fat Boo and Bobbidi, and he was relaxed for the most part. |
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| EMIYA | Mar 8 2014, 01:35 AM Post #35 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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The manga seems to want to imply almost that since Gohan can't get as angry as before he can't get into his power. A rather BS point because Gohan casually transformed at the ROSAT. But everything from appearance to chapters before and after pretty put Gohan dead on SSJ and for whatever reason he isn't you can just chalk up to AT's terrible writing.
True, there is a subtle difference there. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Mar 8 2014, 03:48 AM Post #36 |
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Gohan didn't seem to like how it made him act. Gohan blamed his rage and cockiness for Goku getting killed at the Cell games. When Goku tells him to go all out on Boo's shell, and "get angry like he did against Cell", he said he could never do that again. |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 8 2014, 04:27 AM Post #37 |
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That's more of a Toei thing, which they've been doing since Movie 12. I don't think Toriyama personally supervised the animation process in BOG. |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 8 2014, 04:56 AM Post #38 |
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The anime, movies, and other spin-off projects are inconsistent with SSJ2's sparks. The original manga is INCREDIBLY consistent with them. They're an intended attribute of the form to such an obvious degree that it's like they're walking up and slapping you in the face.
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Mar 8 2014, 06:26 AM Post #39 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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This is true, but if you consider Neko Majin, this is only half true. Goku in regular Super Saiyan is seen with sparks around him in this series: Spoiler: click to toggle All SSjs are seen with sparks around them in this series, even Vegeta and Onio. |
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| Hearts | Mar 8 2014, 09:27 AM Post #40 |
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Yes but to show power, ssj2 is the only one that is consistent with it.. while ignoring that its neko majin youre talking about
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Mar 8 2014, 04:36 PM Post #41 |
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I will agree, but that's how Toriyama draws all his Super Saiyans now, and it started with Neko Majin. |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 8 2014, 05:15 PM Post #42 |
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Even Neko Majin was written YEARS after Dragon Ball ended. I know nowadays Toriyama isn't super-consistent with the SSJ/SSJ2 differences, and him admitting that his memories of SSJ2 became blurred is probably partially to blame for that. But when we're talking the original manga, back when SSJ2 was something brand-new and at the forefront of Toriyama's story and mind... it's extremely consistent in how it's visually portrayed. |
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| Rokai | Jun 12 2014, 03:38 PM Post #43 |
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SSj looks similar to the base form of a saiyan but just with thick, spiky, smooth hair and SSj2 has longer, thin, spikier, rigid hair with paler skin, bigger pupils, buffed up muscles, fierce eyes and the characteristics are a bit more violent, aggressive, and barbaric
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| + Emmeth | Jun 12 2014, 03:39 PM Post #44 |
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I ♥ Yoeri
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Please don't bump old threads. Closed.
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